unmourned L´Ame Immortelle
Ngày tham gia : 23/04/2007 Age : 113 Tổng số bài gửi : 968
| Tiêu đề: CBR va` VBR?? Tue 18 Sep 2007 - 14:17 | |
| HIen. nay to' dang ban khoan ve` khoan? nen dung` mp3 CBR hay VBR, cai' nao` nghe hay hon?? Moi. nguoi` cho y' kien' ?? \m/ | |
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Raito Shinigami
Ngày tham gia : 24/03/2007 Age : 37 Tổng số bài gửi : 670 Đến từ : IRCHighway
| Tiêu đề: Re: CBR va` VBR?? Tue 18 Sep 2007 - 21:31 | |
| có nhiều tranh cãi về việc lựa chọn giữa 2 cái này , nhưng phần lớn chọn VBR Về chất lượng nén mp3 : cùng 1 mức bitrate thì VBR cho chất lượng tốt hơn. Về tốc độ nén mp3 : CBR > VBR-II > VBR - Code:
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VBR "theoretically" offers the best quality. Theoretically, because this is only true, if the psymodel would be perfect. Most of the time, the psymodel works right, so quality is indeed better - but in rare cases, the encoder may encode a section with too low bitrate, because it underestimates the "difficulty" of that section.
In practice, CBR cannot compete with VBR at the same *average bitrate*. However, if you encode in CBR at the maximum bitrate - i.e. 320kbit.... then the encoder always assigns the maximum bitrate... thus, it can never happen, that the encoder assigns not enough bitrate. The downside off course is about 50% bigger filesize, since a similiar perceptual quality could be reached with VBR V2 at about 200kbit average.
What it comes down to is this: Do you want efficiency or perfection? If you want efficiency, then go with V2... you get sufficient quality at reasonable bitrates....... If you want perfection, then even CBR will not fix your paranoia, because there are ultra-rare artifacts, which cannot even be fixed at 320kbit, because they are the result of limitations of the MP3-format.... thus, you would need to switch to either lossless at around 700kbit, or a hybrid-lossless encoder in lossy-mode, like WavPack lossy at around 450kbit.
Another way to look at it is this: VBR V2: 100% filesize, transparent to almost everyone more than 99,9% of the time during normal listening. CBR320: 150% filesize, transparent to almost everyone more than 99,99% of the time during normal listening. WavPack lossy @450kbit: 225% filesize, transparent to almost everyone more than 99,999% of the time during normal listening. Lossless: 350% filesize, bitidentical so 100% transparent
If you look at those simplyfied stats, you will understand why VBR MP3 is so popular here: It is the most efficient choice.
Summary: MP3 was not designed to be perfect. It was designed to be "good enough" and to deliver that at very space-efficient bitrates. VBR delivers this goal the best. If you want perfection, then look elsewhere than MP3. This may sound harsh, but there is no other way to get it.... mp3 is not perfect, and it doesnt need to be perfect... its purpose is to be "good enough". People who want absolute safety and perfection should not use MP3, because it wasnt designed for such a purpose.
còn tớ thì thích ABR hơn , nên lúc rip tớ setting thế này -V0 --vbr-new | |
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Sharon Thành viên chính thức
Ngày tham gia : 26/05/2007 Age : 42 Tổng số bài gửi : 14
| Tiêu đề: Re: CBR va` VBR?? Wed 19 Sep 2007 - 8:38 | |
| To chung thuy voi CBR, VBR to thay bitrate no nhay? nhu xoc lo, nhieu khi lam cho cai player cua minh dek the doc. duoc la bai` hat dai` bao nhieu phut. Ghet vat.! | |
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Raito Shinigami
Ngày tham gia : 24/03/2007 Age : 37 Tổng số bài gửi : 670 Đến từ : IRCHighway
| Tiêu đề: Re: CBR va` VBR?? Wed 19 Sep 2007 - 19:52 | |
| VBR sử dụng birate biến thiên tùy theo độ phức tạp và tính chất của tín hiệu gốc mà dùng số bitrate thích hợp, có lúc cao lúc thấp
vì vậy nên bitrate của VBR mới nhảy như thế | |
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High|ander Thành viên chính thức
Ngày tham gia : 27/10/2007 Age : 37 Tổng số bài gửi : 14
| Tiêu đề: Re: CBR va` VBR?? Tue 30 Oct 2007 - 19:25 | |
| -lame( -p -v --vbr-new -V 4 )
Thế này thì sao nhỉ, kiếm mãi mới ra line cho lame VBR trong Besweet... ><
"D:\Software\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input C:\audio.ac3 -output C:\output.mp3 -logfile C:\result.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 50% ) -ota( -d -10 -hybridgain ) -lame( -p -v --vbr-new -V 4 ) | |
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